December’s dialogue with May….Boy, Did She Make a Mistake!

Or so say many people who eagerly look for reasons that people should not enter into age-gap relationships:

I read the news about Michael Douglas‘ throat cancer with the same sadness I would have for anyone who was visited by the Big C.  Believe it or not, it isn’t any worse or better because he is a celebrity who is married to a younger woman.

We’ve said many times that society’s primary age-gap role models are celebrities.  In reality though, age is no more important in Hollywood than the additional publicity that is derived from being in the media because you have a young wife/husband/girlfriend/boyfriend/lover, etc.  Rarely, if ever, do the media take the time to look behind the notoriety of the relationship.  I believe we should look more closely at Michael and Catherine because they seem to be surviving their age difference quite well.  Not only do they still seem to be happy, but also they look to me like very good parents.

Yes, it will be sad if something happens and Michael can’t beat this disease.  Somehow I think he will do just fine.  He is strong and has the love and support of a loving wife and children.  Who cares that he is a celebrity?  In this fight he is no different than you or me.

He and Catherine might truly be one of our best Hollywood relationship/couple role models simply because they are making it work.  In the worst case one of them might die soon – yes, one of them.  Regardless of age or disease, neither knows who will be the first to go.  One of the greatest love stories of the 20th century was that of Clark Gable and Carole Lombard, although the seven years between them barely qualifies as an age-gap.  Lombard died at the age of 33 in an airplane crash and Gable was said to have never gotten over her death.  Although he remarried, he was still buried by her side when he died.

Beautiful loves often suffer loss regardless of age.  John Lennon was seven years younger than Yoko when he was killed in 1980.  She is still alive.  George Gershwin had a ten year relationship with Kay Swift.  Although they were the same age, she still outlived him by more than 50 years as he died when he was 38, and the list goes on.

Michael Douglas and Catherine Zeta Jones appear to be committed to each other.  They have found a way to be happy, raise a family, and still be very active in their individual careers.  Catherine has won an Academy Award, Tony, etc. since they married.  They have maintained their individuality in their work and in their relationship.  That is hard in most cases, but particularly in Hollywood.

So for those of you who judge couples by their ages, look to your own relationships.  Maybe your time would be better spent not worrying about celebrities.  For those of you struggling to make decisions about an age gap relationship, look to yourselves.  Only you know if it is good for you.  For those of you simply trying to find, develop, or be in a relationship regardless of age, look to yourselves, too.  Age is a red herring.  Happiness is found within love, not birthdates.

Consider the lesson from Garth Brooks’ song The Dance.  “I could have missed the pain, but I’d of had to miss the dance.”  Ask yourself what’s more important, missing a bit of pain or dancing  during the time you spend together, no matter how short or long that time may be?  Don’t ask about age.  It truly is meaningless when it comes to love.  Consider Paul Newman and Joanne Woodward.  They had 50 years together.  Do you believe she mourned any less because they had so many years together?  Love knows no age.  Loss knows no age.

Michael, my thoughts go out to you and I wish you success in your coming struggle.  Somehow I think you will be OK.  Catherine, although I don’t know you, I believe I’ve seen your love for Michael.  You are good advertisements for love, no matter your ages.  May God be with you throughout this fight and my prayer for you is simply that His will be done.

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So What Do Sally Rand and Eminem Have In Common?

Well, until recently I would have said nothing.  Now I know better!

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I was watching Doctor Who a while ago and realized I recognized the music that was playing.  The episode was “The Doctor Dances” and the music was one of the big bands from the 1940s.  When the music ended on the TV it continued in my head.  I realized I recognized the song “In The Mood” and even the band leader, Glenn Miller.

Gayle and I recently saw Queensryche in concert.  I’m sure not many of you know that group but in our Discover days we enjoyed their song “Silent Lucidity.”  Boy, were we surprised when the concert began.

Let me digress.  Why?  Because this is one of those times when I understand why I have been successful in maintaining an age-gap relationship.  Let’s go back to the 1940s.  Remember, I was born in 1942.  I certainly listened to the big band music my older siblings danced to in our living room.  When the 1950s rolled around Chuck Barry and Elvis and Jerry Lee and Johnny Mathis and other 1950s “rockers” came into my life.  I have to admit I was not an Elvis fan, but many others became my favorites.  I particularly remember that Johnny Mathis sang my first “our song.”  It was The Twelfth of Never.  I also got to suffer the teenage angst of the night the music died; when Buddy Holly, the Big Bopper and Richie Valens died in a plane crash in 1959.

I don’t remember too much of the sixties music because I was busy protecting our country in the Navy (I actually worked in an office) and getting my bachelor’s degree in Accounting.  I do, however, remember fondly the music of Iron Butterfly and The Doors.  I’ve even visited Jim Morrison’s grave in Paris twice.

This continued through the seventies and eighties and nineties, and etc.  I’ve talked about being willing to change in order to maintain an age-gap (or any) relationship.  In this particular case change came because I was willing to listen to music, hear the message and enjoy the beats.  My mom and dad were convinced that rock and roll would rot our brains.  I think there are parents today that feel the same way about 21st century rock or rap music.  But have they listened to the music?  I doubt it.

I don’t listen to nearly as much music as Gayle.  She knows a whole lot more than I about who is popular and who is singing what.  That doesn’t much matter to me.  I just listen.  I’m rarely sure who it is, but I don’t listen unless I like it.  You know what?  I love today’s music, regardless of who is singing it.  The music is all that’s necessary.

So, what do you think Sally Rand and Eminem have in common?  Music!  Why does that matter?  Because Queensryche had a show that we never expected.  It included Cirgue d’Soleil type acts, ballet, a stripper and a fan dancer.  (For those of you who don’t know, Sally Rand was a fan dancer.)  And included in all of that mayhem was Queensryche, singing some really great hard rock.  And how does Eminem fit into this blog?  He represents the pinnacle of my evolution in the arena of the music I like.  I would have never listened to him had Gayle not become interested a few years ago.  I started with Glenn Miller and Stan Kenton and have evolved to Eminem and Queensryche.  At some point that night Gayle turned to me and asked “what are we doing here?”  The answer is very simple.  As Geoff Tate, the lead singer said, we were there to “celebrate the music.”

I celebrate the life I find in the music.  I celebrate the change I find in me because I enjoy today’s music when many folks my age don’t understand it.  I celebrate my willingness to not be old.  I celebrate the fact that an age-gap relationship is just the norm to me.  Age, after all, does not make a relationship, just like it does not make a song or a popular singer.  Celebrate your life and hear all of the music that gives it your soundtrack.  Johnnie Mathis anyone?

Any True Blood fans out there?  In the books Elvis never went away; he just became a vampire.  He has not appeared in the HBO series yet and maybe that’s best.  In the books he was “made” as a vampire after his brain had begun to deteriorate.  They call him Bubba in the books.  That should tell you something.

By the way, Queesnrych didn’t even sing Silent Lucidity!

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Lunch with Big Brother

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May-Decembers and Brotherly Love

Posted by Gayle

Well the trek to Ron’s homeland is winding down.  The grandkids have been hugged goodbye, tears have been wiped away, the 50th reunion is over, and I’m sitting on a plane headed back to Big-D.  Ron’s driving home and will reunite with me tomorrow. Perhaps the most memorable part of the trip was lunch today with Ron’s brother (Big Brother) and his wife.  Big Brother is 13 years older than Ron.  Big Brother’s marriage of a zillion year’s ended shortly after their 94 year old father died in 2001.  Big Brother remarried in 2002 to a woman 20 years his junior.

When I joined their family in 1986, I wasn’t exactly welcomed with open arms.  I hung in there and it didn’t take too long to find my own niche in their family.   As the years went by, they realized I was there to stay because of my love for Ron.  Perhaps I paved the way for Big Brother’s wife.  I think she made her transition into the family seamlessly.

Lunch with them today was a joy and it made me silently giggle.  Big Brother and his wife don’t use computers much.  They don’t know what a blog is and we’ve never really mentioned May-December Secrets to them.  One thing I find comforting about being around Big Brother is that a I catch a glimpse of Ron in 13 years.  It’s not a bad glimpse to catch especially when I am sitting across from Big Brother’s wife who is only a few years older than me.  We were laughing about the “stubborn” gene both of these men inherited.  We “May’ wives took a little credit for knocking some of the rough corners off the brothers.  More laughter and a few knowing looks crossed the table.

Big brother and I have another thing in common.  Neither of us had children of our own, but we both became proud grandparents.  Today we did some grandparental bragging, compared medication lists, and achey joints, but all in all we just marveled at how well everyone was doing.

Love is good for us – I’m sure of it.  Today I was a reminded that soul mates don’t count the years or the circumstances between them.  They just find a way to be together in whatever way and whenever they can.

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Breathtaking at Any Age

Posted by Gayle

These are the hills Ron calls home. Looking at them together brought a quiet “ageless” moment of awe.

Sometimes the best remedy for an age gap is just breathing and being… together.

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4:45pm


Gayle LusterShe made me cry….

Posted by Gayle

Ron’s youngest daughter (I’ll call her Baby Girl – she’s 38) just called to ask me how I am doing.  She and her husband were astute enough this morning to realize that I might be nervous going to this high school reunion.  So Baby Girl  just called to tell me that I’m loved and beautiful and that everyone is going to like me.  Baby Girl made me cry those “good” tears – you know the ones you feel when your heart swells up with love…

I’m patching up some makeup, but it’s worth every moment of it.   Just like being in this family has been worth every moment of it.  I love you Baby Girl.  (The pic is of me and Baby Girl’s baby girl – more heart swelling, but no more tears okay?)