Taking the Easy Way Out

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Or not being willing to do the work (A post by Ron)

We recently received a call from a reporter for Slate.com who was working on an article about age-gap relationships. I sat and listened to one side of the interview and at one point heard Gayle say “Yes, an age-gap can be the reason for a divorce.”  I certainly couldn’t disagree with her but in my mind I began listing other reasons for divorce.  Money problems, communication difficulties, affairs, children (to have or not, how to raise, etc.), incompatibility, growing apart, and on and on.

I often tell my couple clients that any relationship requires a great deal of work to be successful.  In my opinion (backed only by personal and client related experience) every successful relationship stays that way because the individuals in the relationship are willing to do the work.  Just think about who you were when you entered into your relationship.  You were an individual.  It doesn’t matter how much you loved the other person or how much you believed you were alike you were headed for a shock – you each had a lot to learn.

Consider these potential problems and add your own as you go along.  All of the questions I’m asking come from my counseling experience and no matter how petty some may seem, have been real problems with couples.  How do you load the dishwasher?  How do you separate the laundry?  Do you chew with your mouth open?  Do you make strange noises when you laugh?  Has there been an affair?  Does your libido match that of your partner?  Do you have sex too often?  Not often enough?  Is there a significant age difference between you and your partner.  Do you disagree about money?  Do you want to have children?  Do you not?  Do you want more privacy than you get?  I could continue the list, but will let you finish it with your own issues.

So here’s my point.  Almost every one of the problems I’ve listed, and many more, can be a single, easy way out of your relationship.  Yes, even the “unimportant” issues such as dishes, clothes or chewing.  Not likely by themselves, but they usually mask even more serious problems.  Affairs, money, communication, sex, age gaps and incompatibility can each be an early, easy way out.  Particularly if you are already looking for an excuse to be out.

Each of these problems can be overcome if you are willing to do the work.  That’s the secret, do the work!  So often I find that only one partner is willing.  The other may have given up, or be frightened, or just not believe in getting help.  It is so much easier to just say it’s not working and should end.  Sadly, many of these do end.

Yes, a significant age-gap can be the stated “reason” for a divorce or breakup.  If you are in that situation, though, I ask you to think back to when you started the relationship.  The same age-gap existed then.  Did you believe you were honestly in love?  Did the age-gap seem to be a significant problem then?  If so, why did you enter into the relationship.  And now, what has changed?  Why is age a problem today?  If the age-gap didn’t exist, would you be ready to leave this person you once loved?

I don’t believe any single issue causes a relationship to end.  I do believe you are doing yourself, your partner and all of the other people in your life who love you a disservice if you don’t at least make an effort to “do the work” to deal with real issues and perhaps save the relationship.  That usually involves bringing a third party in as an arbitrator, interpreter, and/or counselor.  Does it have to be a therapist?  No, but that may be best.  After all, I have no biases towards either of the individuals.  I’m neither family nor friend and, as a result, am more likely to be able to consider both sides of the issues.

While a couple is in counseling with me I constantly challenge them to look at themselves as well as their partner and the relationship.  As I’ve heard Gayle say, “there are three clients in relationship counseling – the relationship and each partner. Sometimes one or both of the partners really don’t like me but that’s not why they engaged me to help them.  In fact, not liking me often gives them another target and takes some of the pressure off the relationship as we interact.  I watch for signs of unidentified or hidden issues.  I teach them how to communicate and even how to argue.  I assign “homework” and keep after them until they accomplish it.  In short, I make them work as hard as I possibly can to save their relationship.  That is my job.

So I want to amend something I said above.  Yes, an age-gap in a relationship can be the “reason” for a divorce or breakup but not by itself. If it is used by itself I believe it is used as an excuse.  Age-gaps are only one aspect of a relationship, as is money, or communications, or sex…  By itself an age-gap has little or no power over the success or failure of your relationship.  Don’t use it as an excuse.  “Do the work!”

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Part 5 – Everything You Ever Wanted to Know about May December Relationships

Get the scoop, the whole scoop, and nothing but the scoop!

(Posted by Ron & Gayle)

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We were recently interviewed by the relentlessly awesome Dixie Feldman who writes a blog for WETV.Com.  We’ll be sharing the interview in its entirety over the next few weeks.  Enjoy!

What are the benefits and challenges to a M-D marriage?

Gayle: For me one of the best benefits is grandchildren without having had to give birth or raise a pack of teenagers!   I know the family issues can be a challenge, but once you work through them there are just so many benefits.  Our holidays are insane with 4 married children and 12 grandchildren.  We never get to see them enough and that’s a challenge.  But there is never a lack of love and that’s a major benefit.  Let’s not forget that whole great sex thing!  An older man can set the bar pretty darn high.  So the challenge might be that you are ruined for future lovers.  I guess you could always take that knowledge with you, find a younger man, and mentor him – thus leaving the world in better shape than when you found it!

Ron: I’ve mentioned several already.  Their sexual relationship can be both a benefit or a challenge depending upon the age and/or health of the older partner.   Finances can also be a benefit or a challenge.  Many older men are already established in their careers and are financially secure.  On the other hand, many are coming out of divorces that have significantly damaged their financial stability and it may carry over into the new relationship.  Other benefits are the maturity of the older man.  His interest in being an active partner.  His ability to listen better than many younger men.  Challenges are the social stigma that is sometimes attached to these relationships.  Also, the potential for health issues with the older male as the marriage progresses.  Family issues are also often a problem.  Children and parents are sometimes very much against the relationship.

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Part 2 – Everything You Ever Wanted to Know about May December Relationships

More of the scoop, the whole scoop, and nothing but the scoop!

(Posted by Ron & Gayle)

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We were recently interviewed by the relentlessly awesome Dixie Feldman who writes a blog for WETV.Com.  We’ll be sharing the interview in its entirety over the next few weeks.  Enjoy!

What are the benefits to a woman entering a May December romance?

Gayle: When you are with an older man his experience is evident in, shall we just say, MANY areas.  There is also a sense of stability that comes with his wisdom.  If you are dating a younger man, you bring experience to the table and it’s fun to have someone youthful with which to share your life.

Ron: In most cases an older man is more mature than the men younger women are used to dating.  Older men are usually more attentive to their younger partner.   They are not as likely to spend a great deal of time with “the boys” and instead are with the woman more.  Depending on their age and health older men are  much more likely to be good sexual partners.  They are more attentive to the woman’s needs and are more likely to stay engaged with the woman after sex as opposed to “rolling over and going to sleep.”

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What to do when ED comes a knockin?

There is more to it than a “little blue” pill.

(Posted by Gayle)

Questions have begun rolling into MayDecember Secrets and this is our premier “answer post”.   We’re sharing the gist of the question with you, but have been sure to omit any identifying information.

…our age difference didn’t seem to impact us until now.  He’s on medication and can’t get an erection.  He is willing to “take care of me”, but we are now lacking pillow talk and intimacy.  We both want this to work and are willing.  I hate to put it all on sex,  but I don’t know what to do.  We are compatible in so many ways and have been married a long time.  We are going to get some counseling.   Do you have any insight to share with us?

First let me say, thanks for asking.  It’s brave to ask for help and it is so difficult to know where to turn.  When your marriage is good on so many levels, you hate to get friends or family involved especially in your sex life.  “You know since Joe started taking high blood pressure medication he can’t get it up.  How about you Bob?  What kind of erections to you get?” It isn’t exactly dinner table conversation is it?

When a May December couple runs into sexual difficulties it can spell disaster.   Any couple having a sexual problem isn’t unique, but when there is an age gap it is easy to blame age.  Since we can’t change our age, we run into a wall.  Giving up may seem like the only answer for both the May and the December partners.

I heard Dustin Hoffman broach the subject of erections on Jay Leno one night.  He talked about having a “6:30? erection.  Jay was speechless as Dustin elaborated.  He said when he was a teenager, his erections stood at full attention like 12:00 on a clock.  As he aged, his erections changed.  In his 40’s, his erections began to look like 3:15 on the clock.  By his 60’s, his erections were usually a “6:30? (loving referred to as the “6:30 boner.”)  If it was ever at “4:20? he was thrilled.

Goodness only knows how they got on the subject of erectile strength in the first place.  But it was truly informational.   I’ve shared the story with many men and women over the years (clients usually – it’s not table talk in this family either.)  Think about the difference between men and women.  Women are bombarded with messages about what to expect as they age.  We’ve got color for our hair, cream to get rid of brown spots, tape to hold up our breasts, Spanx to firm up our bottoms, hormones to replace the ones we’ve lost, lubricants to replace… well you get the idea.  No woman hits her 40’s, let alone her 50’s, without knowing what to fear expect.

Younger men know about “impotence”, but the information they have is generally lacking and inaccurate.  They hope pray want to believe it won’t happen to them.  After all, only a weak man can’t get it up.  That dancing “Viva Viagra!” guy, seems to suggest that even if it does occur, the little blue pill will produce 12 o’clock “wood” so there is nothing to fear.

How many people really consider both of the definitions of impotence?

  • The medical definition is the “abnormal” inability to get an erection.
  • The psychologically oriented definition is the inability to take effective action; helplessness or powerlessness.

The inability to achieve and/or maintain an erection can happen at any age.  In fact, is DOES happen at many ages.  When an older man’s erections are not as reliable, easy to maintain, or hard as they once were, he is likely is to encounter the psychologically oriented definition of impotence.  If he is brave enough to broach the subject with his doctor, he often will go home with a pat on the back and a prescription for the stuff that makes the viva guy dance.  He probably hasn’t been told what to expect from the pill and may have been told (if he is lucky) the right way to take the medication.

Secondly and a very important second – the medical definition says the “ABNORMAL inability to get an erection.”  Not being able to get an erection on demand is NORMAL for a man (I wonder if his doctor mentioned that?)  I have had men tell me they are worried because they no longer get hard instantly when they see an attractive woman.  Perhaps they forget the embarrassment they suffered as young boys when they had little or no power over getting a hard-on.  They longed for the day when they would have some control over their penis.

If erectile issues, have found their way into your relationship, here are some things to consider:

  • Just because a man doesn’t get an erection at will doesn’t mean he is impotent.
  • Just because an erection fades before ejaculation doesn’t mean the he is impotent.
  • Men do not have to ejaculate to achieve an orgasm.
  • Men do not have to be fully erect to ejaculate or have an orgasm.
Note to women: just because your man doesn’t get as hard as he used to does NOT necessarily mean he has stopped being attracted to you.  Your response to his erectile difficulties is very important.   The worst things you can do are:
  • tell him it is “okay.”  I know that is counter intuitive, but think of it like this.  For him,  it’s not okay (it’s invalidation to tell him it’s no big deal.)  He is freaking out even if he is acting nonchalant.  You can let him know you love him. Then ask him how you can best show your support.
  • ask him if it’s your fault. This is not a time for your insecurities to trump his.
The way in which people make love changes over the years.  If you have worked diligently enough to be in a long-term relationship, you are going to discover this.  There are multitudes of ways to have beautiful, fulfilling, and mind blowing sex even when your body parts don’t work the same way they did when you were younger (this is true for both men and women.)
They keys to finding a solution to your sexual issues are:
  1. Believe that a solution exists.
  2. Curiosity about what to do and where to find the solution.
  3. Willingness to get out of your comfort zone to see what works.
  4. Openness about your thoughts and feelings.
  5. Ask for help when you need it.
  6. Patience to allow the process to unfold.  It may take some time.
  7. Commitment to see it through even when the times are tough.
  8. Desire to listen to, hear, and understand your partner.
We’ll be blogging more about this subject stay tuned…
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Allrighty then, shall we talk about ED (as in Bob Dole and Viva Viagra – not the talking horse Mr. Ed)? Katie Couric made history having her colonoscopy filmed to help people get comfortable with discussing colons. So we’re going to plunge into the topic of erectile dysfunction (ED) right here right now.  Let’s get blogging!

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