November 21st, 2010
Disapproval, unwanted pregnancy and disease
Written by By Maya SokolovskiWednesday, 17 September 2008Dating an older man can be more trouble than it’s worth
Although the media may have you thinking otherwise, dating older men is not as great as it may seem. Before I go any further, I have a confession to make – I used to date a man 13 years my senior. I was madly in love with him – so much so, in fact, that when an essay assignment came up and the profs told us we could write about any topic we wanted, I chose relationships between younger women and older men. I was in for a few surprises. Although relevant and credible research about those types of pairings are scant, I managed to glean a few things… Read entire article here.
Gayle’s Commentary:
Let me go on record right now that I almost didn’t post this article. I think it’s full of stereotypes and that’s not something this website is here to tout. But in graduate school, I was trained in research and I have noticed there is a woefully small of amount of credible research about us age gappers. It reminds me of the days before Susan G. Koman got cancer, the days before her death, and the days before her sister Nancy Brinker made a death bed promise to her to do everything in her power to end breast cancer forever.
Ms. Brinker was outraged because of the shamefully small amount of research being done on womens’ health issues. Now there are little pink ribbons everywhere. You can’t go in the grocery store without being offered a chance to contribute to breast cancer research by purchasing certain products. To say I’m impressed with what the Susan G. Koman Foundation has been able to accomplish in a relatively short amount of time (the foundation was born in 1982) would be an understatement to say the least.
The article today, while negative and inflammatory, makes an really excellent point “relevant and credible research about those types of pairings are scant…” Yes it is! I’m not planning to start a foundation (at least I don’t think I am), but I sure would like to see more CREDIBLE research on the topic. Marriage is researched all of the time. We know that marriages are generally good for your health and men live longer when they are in long term marriages.
The implication of this article is that age gap relationships are bad for women. It wouldn’t take a rocket scientist to know that I’m not on board with this notion and my life doesn’t substantiate the claim. I think we May Decembers are worth paying attention to. I believe there will be more and more of us as time goes on. I think there are normal, happy, healthy relationships with age differences and I think there are whack jobs in age gap relationships. We’re just like other relationships. We come in all shapes, sizes, and with varying degrees of mental health.
My theory is that we aren’t so different from other relationships, but what does make us different is that we don’t know we are not different. Did you follow that? Let me say it another way – we need validation by other couples who have walked in our shoes. One positive result of research is to give us a frame of reference for “normal.” It is why Kinsey’s work was so groundbreaking. Prior to the publishing of the Kinsey Report people sat alone in silence worried that their sexual thoughts and desires were deviant. The report brought to light how similar people were in their thoughts. That brings peace and actually increases mental health.
When you are married to someone significantly older or younger it’s easy to sit alone in silence when trouble happens. Maybe we don’t go to our friends because they aren’t “the same.” Maybe we don’t go to our family because they warned us it wouldn’t work. Maybe we are scared to talk to a counselor because they might think we have a daddy complex.
I just want the gag removed. It’s okay with me if people publish stories I don’t agree with. Just do the research and publish something!
Just adding a quick note to this post. We went out to dinner tonight to a national chain restaurant. They were selling coasters for the Susan G. Komen Foundation for a $1.00. It’s a quick, easy, and powerful fund raising idea and another reminder to me of the amazing power of an idea or concept whose time has come.
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Hi there! You critiqued my article, so thank you! I do agree with you that the article turned out waaay too inflammatory. I wish I had more space to go into detail and list the various shortcomings of the journal articles I read. I agree with you: there are plenty of exceptions, BUT I feel that the research speaks for itself. Ahem, there is a bit of a problem, though; most of the research showing the negative effects of these relationships studied adolescent girls. Yikes! Anyway, sorry you didn’t like my article but, as a scientifically-minded person, above all, I thirst for the truth, ugly though it may be. If you like, I can send you a list of references. Thanks again!
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Before I forget, I’ve been seriously thinking of doing my own, independent research (lofty goal for a newb, eh) so… I dunno… Can you give me some pointers? Thanks in advance.
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rongayle Reply:
October 2nd, 2008 at 7:20 am
Hi Maya:
I would love to open a dialogue on this subject and do want you to know I understand exactly what you are saying. I’d love the references. Obviously the sample may be a bit skewed. And the age of the women makes a huge difference. You might want to check out this article – http://maydecembersecrets.com/articles/why-call-it-may-december/ – it suggests that the acceptable of the age gap wides as the age of the youngest person increases. With the formula used, the only gap relationship that would acceptable for an adolescent would be a tiny one.
I admire you for forging forward and would love to see if there is a way I may be of service. I think you are on to something and would love to see you take another step forward. You can email me at gayle.luster@verizon.net. Thanks so much for sharing your thoughts. I too thirst for truth! Please, please stay in touch!
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Ron Reply:
October 2nd, 2008 at 8:59 am
Hi Maya:
I’m the Ron of Rongayle and I’m the older part of the gap. I enjoyed your article and, of course, took a bit of issue with it because of our circumstances. Learning about the test population helped me understand it more, though. I have no problem agreeing with the results of an age gap test involving adolescent girls, or boys, by the way. When I comment on any age-gap post I generally rely on the tried and true answer – it’s not about the age, it’s about the relationship. I choose to not comment on those posts that address adolescents, however. Why? I don’t want my inherent bias to taint my response.
I believe really “mature” adolescents are in the minority and it doesn’t matter what the comparative ages might be. It just seems that the odds are against relationships that begin in adolescence. I use my own experience as a therapist and as a person who married another adolescent when I was 18 and there was only a 5 month age gap. It didn’t work out in the long run. Not a big surprise. I do hope your article leads to more research, however. There are lots of us “successful” age-gappers out there and maybe you will be the one to identify us and help prove that any good relationship can last, regardless of age differences. Keep it up.
Ron
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